"ANYONE OVER 21. HAS THE FREEDOM OF CHOICE.

HOWEVER, FREEDOM OF

"WE REALIZE SEX IS

SPEECH HAS ITS LIMITATIONS," SHE DECLARED. HERE TO STAY, BUT SEX AND OBSCENITY ARE NOT SYNONYMOUS."

THE POINT OF VIEW OF THE COURTS HAS BEEN THAT PORNOGRAPHY IS PUNISHABLE UNDER OUR OBSCENITY LAWS WHEN THE MATERIAL MIGHT AROUSE THE READER SEXUALLY, MRS. MINUDRI ADDED.

MRS. THOMPSON SUGGESTED THAT THE TWO POINTS MADE BY MRS. MINUDRI MIGHT BE CONFLICTING SINCE A CHANGE OF LAWS WOULD MAKE THE PROBLEM A COMMUNITY ONE RATHER THAN MERELY AN INDIVIDUAL FAMILY MATTER.

NRS. MINUDRI ADMITTED THAT "WHAT MIGHT BE PORNOGRAPHIC TO ME WOULD NOT BE TO YOU"; THAT IT WAS UP TO THE FAMILY. IN THE NEXT BREATH SHE SAID THAT SEX LITERATURE CORRUPTED THE MIND AND THAT WE SHOULD LET THE COURTS AND JURY DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT IT MEETS THE COMMUNITY'S STANDARDS.

SHE ALSO STATED THAT A GROUP OF ATTORNEYS WAS NOW AT WORK ON A LAW TO BE PRESENTED TO THE SAN FRANCISCO BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. BASED ON LAWS NOW MORE OR LESS OPERATIVE IN OTHER STATES, THE PROPOSED SAN FRANCISCO STATUTE WOULD PRESUMABLY TAKE AWAY THE "WILLFULLY AND KNOWINGLY" CLAUSE IN THE PRESENT LAWS. UNDER PRESENT LAWS NEWSTAND DEALERS MUST "WILLFULLY AND KNOWINGLY" PRESENT OBSCENE AND OBJECTIONABLE MATERIAL FOR SALE. SINCE MOST DEALERS DON'T HAVE TIME TO READ ALL THE MATERIAL FOR SALE AT THEIR STANDS THIS CLAUSE MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO OBTAIN A CONVICTION.

DR. PHYLLIS KRONHAUSEN, PSYCHOLOGIST AND CO-AUTHOR OF THE BOOK "PORNOGRAPHY AND THE LAW", STATED THAT SHE AND MRS. MINUDRI "DISAGREED VIOLENTLY." (THIS HAD BEEN RATHER APPARENT A FEW DAYS BEFORE WHEN THE TWO LADIES SQUARED OFF ON THE SAME SUBJECT ON TELEVISION STATION KQED, THE BAY AREA'S EDUCATIONAL STATION.) SHE POINTED OUT THAT "PLAYBOY" MAGAZINE, WHICH HAD BEEN ATTACKED BY THE SAN MATEO CITIZENS COMMITTEE FOR DECENT LITERATURE, AND "LADY CHATTERLEY'S LOVER" WHICH HAD BEEN NAMED BY MRS. MINUDRI'S COMMITTEE, HAD BOTH BEEN CLEARED BY THE COURTS.

"WE MUST DEFINE OUR TERMS IN ORDER TO CLARIFY THIS SITUATION," SHE COUNTERED.

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